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Blackwhiskey, I'm not sure if the follow-up responses were helpful to you or not. To understand the basic mistake that Polaris made, you should be able to pan the volume between the two front stereo speakers and the two rear stereo speakers. In other words, you could have all the stereo sound coming out of the front two speakers and nothing coming out of the rear two speakers, or vice-versa. That way, if the music is too loud for the rear passengers, you just pan it towards the front, achieving a nice balance. Polaris didn't provide the correct amp and wiring to actually fade between the front and rear stereo speakers. Instead, the fader pans between all four stereo speakers getting music (panned to the front) vs. all music signal going to the subwoofer under the dash (panned to the rear). This wiring and amp configuration is ludicrous and is completely useless. That is why when you fade to the rear, the sound gets very quiet. You essentially turn off all four stereo speakers and only send very low bass signals to the subwoofer. Likewise, if you fade to the front, you power all four stereo speakers and essentially turn off the subwoofer. Your only option to enjoy sound from all 5 speakers equally is to leave the fader in the middle position. You can control the overall volume of music, but have zero control of increasing or decreasing the volume selectively for rear passengers.

Polaris should correct this. They have not provided a functional vehicle stereo system that has been basic practice in cars for multiple decades. I first discovered this with my 2020 General XP 4 1000 Deluxe. It's unbelievable that they haven't even changed this in the 2021 models. Polaris engineers obviously don't read these forums. People have reported this mistake to their dealers. Either the dealers don't pass it on or Polaris just doesn't even listen to dealer complaints.
They "corrected" it for 2022... they deleted the subwoofer.
 
One thing Polaris could do, is change the wording for the fade in the next update to read "Sub - Speakers" instead of "Rear - Front". This would not change or fix the issue but would avoid allot of confusion.
Thats a good point Reno, Polaris really should change the labeling of it to avoid confusion. I have played around with mine a lot and I now really like the sound. Of course everyone is different. I have mine faded to the sub a bit and the bass turned up in EQ just because I do enjoy a bit more bass. Now the sub hits hard. By doing this I lost a little bit of volume to the 4 speakers but with the latest update the volume range is way bigger and its still plenty loud enough for me.

I only have a 2 seat model though. I could see why this would be annoying and harder to set for 4 seat models.
 
Thats a good point Reno, Polaris really should change the labeling of it to avoid confusion. I have played around with mine a lot and I now really like the sound. Of course everyone is different. I have mine faded to the sub a bit and the bass turned up in EQ just because I do enjoy a bit more bass. Now the sub hits hard. By doing this I lost a little bit of volume to the 4 speakers but with the latest update the volume range is way bigger and its still plenty loud enough for me.

I only have a 2 seat model though. I could see why this would be annoying and harder to set for 4 seat models.
Indeed, this set up in a 2 seater with roof, front and rear windshields sounds pretty good. I'm sure in a 4 seater or an open rig, it would be a bit weak at speed.
 
Good evening I am the new owner of a 2020 XP1000 with Ride Command and I think there is a issue with my stereo. While listening to the radio I realized there was hardly any bass coming from the subwoofer. So I played around with the settings In the head unit. When I use the fader and put it to the rear there is only bass. When I put it to the front there is no bass at all. Is this the way this system was designed or is there a issue with my machine. Sounds kinda crappy to run the sub off the rear channels?
If someone else with the stage 4 audio can see if theirs is doing the same please let me know.

Thank you,

Mike


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I have researched this extensively and have talked to Polaris and Fossgate. Fossgate built the system to Polaris spec.s . The reason it’s messed up with no fade is that the sub woofer does not have its own AMP. It is stealing part of the four channel amp for the ride command. I am told this has been fixed starting with the 2022. The 2022 subwoofer has its own amp.
I have a 2021 and have ordered the new subwoofer with the built in amp. It is on back order and I will let you know if it fixes it in the older models
 
I have researched this extensively and have talked to Polaris and Fossgate. Fossgate built the system to Polaris spec.s . The reason it’s messed up with no fade is that the sub woofer does not have its own AMP. It is stealing part of the four channel amp for the ride command. I am told this has been fixed starting with the 2022. The 2022 subwoofer has its own amp.
I have a 2021 and have ordered the new subwoofer with the built in amp. It is on back order and I will let you know if it fixes it in the older models
I have researched this extensively and have talked to Polaris and Fossgate. Fossgate built the system to Polaris spec.s . The reason it’s messed up with no fade is that the sub woofer does not have its own AMP. It is stealing part of the four channel amp for the ride command. I am told this has been fixed starting with the 2022. The 2022 subwoofer has its own amp.
I have a 2021 and have ordered the new subwoofer with the built in amp. It is on back order and I will let you know if it fixes it in the older models
That is not going to fix the fading issue. The rear channels on the ride command are not even being used. No wires. I used the rear channels to add an amp. Had to add wires and pins to plugin. If it comes with new wiring harness for the current amp might work. But amp may be to much for speakers on their own
 
That is not going to fix the fading issue. The rear channels on the ride command are not even being used. No wires. I used the rear channels to add an amp. Had to add wires and pins to plugin. If it comes with new wiring harness for the current amp might work. But amp may be to much for speakers on their own
I will let you know. Fossgate says it will.
I’ll try and find a 2022 and will let you know.
 
Just got my 22 G2 home with the “upgraded” stage 4, payed for the amp/sub combo so now it cost 2700 to have the EXACT same issues as the 2020. No different….faders don’t work, cracks/pops, no volume, in my case one speaker is humming with no other sound coming out of it…I really hoped this sub upgrade would eliminate all this. I assumed the new amp on sub would provide the power and channels it needed. But apparently there’s more to it. I’m so frustrated, I just want to drop this thing back off in their parking lot..I know it’s only the stereo. But the stereo was a huge selling point. And after reading this thread I thought that Polaris would of upped their game, not made it worse by charging more
 
Update

I did find the manufacturer website for the connector at the amp. The website was easy to navigate and the pins were easy to find as well. I did order some. When they arrive and they fit, I will post the the website so yall can find them and order them. The pins are on $0.20 ea. with free shipping. At this point I'll have the 4ch amp hooked up correctly. For a short while the sub will be disconnected until I get an additional amplifier wired up. I guess I'll start a new thread and link it in this thread to detail the work from here on out. Hopefully next week this project will take off.
Just wondering if you were able to complete the project and if you created a separate thread with retrofit details?
 
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