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General Suspension Swap

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#1 ·
Has anyone used the suspension from a RZR XP on a General? I looked for a thread on this but could not find anything. Looking to swap suspension from a 20’ XP onto our 19’ General
 
#2 ·
There's a member that just did that. It's not just a swap. Lots of cutting and welding.

 
#5 ·
Why do you want to suspension from a RZR XP? Go to www.walkerevansracing.com and check out the Walker Evans 2.5 piggyback shock. I have them on my General and love them. You can adjust the compression and rebound and spring rate. I really think you will like them. Good luck in your search.
The razor suspension will put a general suspension to shame. Much larger/stronger/longer shocks...

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#6 ·
WTF
The two vehicles are two ENTIRELY different platforms. The same is true between the General and the Ranger, THEY’RE different on purpose through their design and USES. I had an XP1000 RZR and loved it’s performance but I couldn’t carry three pencils..... why? No room.
If you want a RZR suspension on your General, you should of bought a RZR.

We had this guy on here who went through all the hassle and money to put a RZR suspension on a General and he posted all his work online and in the end he ended up with a “STOMPER General”

What’s a STOMPER General good for? Parades on the Fourth of July

Thats my two pesos worth amigos and amigas
Cheers Baja Charlie
 
#9 ·
I put Shock Therapy Fox RC2s on my 18 G2. The ride was awesome. Run snow mobile trails in Michigan. 55-60mph through logging road washouts, never bottomed them out once. It was a huge improvement over the factory Sachs struts. Some guys on here (@BajaCharlie and @Pirate) have upgraded to the RC2s and love them. I was $3000 into them, but single handedly the best ride improvement IMHO, unless you want to go long arm.
 
#12 ·
The great debate!!!!

Should I have bought a General or should I have bought a RZR.

You can modify your General to be a RZR or you can modify your RZR to be a General??

The debate begins

Attack attack attack amigos and amigas
I’m a career firefighter / EMT ( lieutenant) with 30 years of service. I’m retiring this year (May) along with a few good friends and we are planing to hit the Trans American Trail. We plan on starting at the beginning in West Virginia and taking about 10 days to get to Tennessee. Before we set out we will take 3 days to drop off three trucks and trailers in Tennessee so we can load up and drive back home. The next plan is to start the trail in Mississippi and end in Utah. Logistics still being worked out. There will be a few Generals on this trip along with a few RZRs and a Honda and a Rmax and one BMW motorcycle. It’s going to be an adventure and I’m excited to do it. It’s not a debate. A RZR is a RZR and a General is a General. They were designed for fun just depending what kind of fun and how serious you are about the fun you want to have. You only live once. Have all the fun you can.
 
#19 ·
the General is better suited for trail riding. RZR is better suited for fast riding. those trailing arms tend to hang up on rocks, trees, stumps, etc, where the a-arms are a little less likely for that to happen. Rzr arguably rides better, but you give up some comfort as far as seating, heat, vibration, and noise in some cases. As said, they have different applications, different target audience--and Polaris Off-Road knows this (which is why they designed them as such).

xpedition is a good choice for those who are into overlanding. VERY good choice actually-just ask dealer to do the "recall" on the clutch which immensely quiets them down.
 
#21 · (Edited)
Update on the general/rzr suspension swap... the front A-arms from a rzr xp 1k 64" or a turbo xp 64" machine will fit the general non-xp. The mounting points to the frame tabs are the same. The rzr A-arms have larger ball joints therefore you will need the carriers, hubs, calipers, shocks, and tie rods. Doing this swap will void the factory sway bar from working. It will have to be removed. On the rear there are 4 options that I've found ... (Option 1)... it will require general xp 64" rear A-arms and moving one of the inside frame mounting tabs on the general or (Option 2)... modifying a set of the general xp rear A-arms to fit the mounting tabs on the general non-xp or (Option 3)... there is a company that builds a weld-in kit for a trailing arm set up from a rzr xp or (Option 4 "easiest")... run 2 inch spacers on the rear which I DO NOT recommend. Some individuals will say this 4" wider swap isn't worth the trouble or too expensive. This swap is definitely cheaper than taking a loss on selling your general non-xp and puchasing a new general xp If you shop around for the parts. There is a ton of the rzr xp and turbo xp parts on the used market. This swap is the same on a rzr 900s or rzr 1000s because the suspensions on the general 1000 non-xp, 900s, and 1000s are the same. In my experience in the southeastern trails and mountains a 64-68 inch machine is a great "middle of the spectrum" width for getting around the trails and being very stable. There's not much information on this subject so I hope this helps. I will have a video on our YouTube channel when I get this swap completed. (General XP front A-arms are not the same width mounting point to the frame as the non-xp general therefore this is the reason for getting rzr xp A-arms)
 
#25 ·
I have been hearing lots of stuff about trailing arms.

they have their place. Polaris chose a-arms on the rzr "S" and the General (and xp) for a reason.

Trailing arms soften the ride a little, and give you a little more control, in a racing situation, or really fast trails. Their downsides. The radius rods are exposed to trails debris (rocks....), the trailing arms themselves are exposed to ruts rocks stumps etc, and I have experienced both situations where the radius rods hang up on rocks (bent one on a brand new rzr xp) and in a really bad situation on the same xp rzr, had the right side trailing arm get hung on a rut which lifted that wheel up just enough to give the other wheel traction and "rear steer" the machine (sorta like a zero turn mower), and this was on a hillside trail where turning was unacceptable and frankly dangerous. That was in fact a dangerous situation when it steered itself to the cliff side which was obviously less than confidence inspiring. Later in the day I drove a General XP up the same trail and it was trouble free, a little more confident in the ruts. It was effortless other than a little bit of a rougher ride.

--but--when we put the xp out in the faster trails, dunes more or less, the general couldn't touch it. But there was a weight difference too.

also on the trailing arm setup, the tires tend to "toe" and they also tend to camber quite a bit during suspension travel which can affect how it handles in the more technical typical trails that we have here. In the dunes and in a more racy situation, that stuff is of little issue. Pro R addressed the toe issue with a toe link that runs inside the trailing arm.

Polaris tested this stuff, and that's why the trail S and rzr S all have a-arm suspension (they are designed for trail riding) where the pro r, pro xp, turbo xp and xp 1000, are all trailing arm style-they're more "racing" thatn trail riding, although it seems people often use them on the trails here.