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Sway bar removal
Went riding last night with some friends in most have RZR 1000 in they have sway bar on the front end removed. I noticed a few times I wish I had more flex vs having a tip feeling going up in down few creek banks.
Has any one done this yet. Am I over thinking things in just need to get used to it. I come from a RZR 800 no sway bars hooked up.
Has any one done this yet. Am I over thinking things in just need to get used to it. I come from a RZR 800 no sway bars hooked up.
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What a difference, day and night!
I think I'm going to look into a quick pin set up. I know it made big difference on the Rzr guess I'm gna do it to the general. Just wondering what other had done. Before I did it.
I removed my front sway bar, and went on the first ride since, yesterday. Just happen to be a place with fast trails, and while I could definitely tell a difference, I could still hang the back out at high speed. It just had a little more lean to it. I still have the rear one hooked up.
Took both mine off the minute I got it home
My front sway bar is off and forgotten. Will never go back on. Still have the rear.
How much does it effect sway when cornering?My front sway bar is off and forgotten. Will never go back on. Still have the rear.
I love me some drifting and I wouldnt want to lose that ability.
Not a high speed drifter. Maybe someone else can better answer that. But for the riding we do, it has helped stability and traction by getting the low side wheel on the ground where it does the most good. It's useless hanging out in the air.
Not a high speed drifter. Maybe someone else can better answer that. But for the riding we do, it has helped stability and traction by getting the low side wheel on the ground where it does the most good. It's useless hanging out in the air.
I used to run the FJ without the sway bar and it really helps when crawling.
I hope they come out with a disconnect at some point so we can have the best of both worlds.
I have been thinking about this and studying the picture and discussion. With the sway bar on, the machine stays flat when the left front is raised, but the right front if off the ground. So, I would assume you loose some traction there, but because the machine does not lean, it would seem to be more stable. In the pic with the sway removed, the right front touches the ground when the left front is raised to the same height, but the machine is leaning to the right side. Would seem to be more unstable. Is this a trade off between traction and stability?
Does this stop the high centering problems with the front wheels.
Some what. It allows the wheel or wheels to drop down and make contact, which in the mud helps. It's helped me get by getting the tire down on the ground where it does the most good. Not spinning up in the air doing nothing. Helps in Rocky uneven terrain.
Old thread but this is the same question I have, and since this question was never answered I was wondering if someone has some new thoughts, a lot of my riding is on the side hills of uneven roads (pitched downhill of course) and in my Ranger there was always a few spots where I had to squeeze my cheeks and pray......in a nutshell, is the front sway bar removal going to help or hurt stability on the side hills?I have been thinking about this and studying the picture and discussion. With the sway bar on, the machine stays flat when the left front is raised, but the right front if off the ground. So, I would assume you loose some traction there, but because the machine does not lean, it would seem to be more stable. In the pic with the sway removed, the right front touches the ground when the left front is raised to the same height, but the machine is leaning to the right side. Would seem to be more unstable. Is this a trade off between traction and stability?
Thanks.
The sway bars mission is to connect one side of the machine to the other and keep the machine flat to the surface you are riding on. On the proverbial flat ground the machine rides level. When you rip around a corner, the machine will stay relatively level with minimal roll to the outside of the turn (aka "mini van roll"). If you disconnect the sway bar, the entire chassis will roll to the outside of the turn more, sometimes much more........., is the front sway bar removal going to help or hurt stability on the side hills?
Thanks.
Also, need to consider front springs and shocks. They are designed to have both sides work together, so if you take out the front sway bar, the front end will feel "softer" because all is now handled by half the spring pressure and half the shock damping. Some times when removing the sway bar, folks will install a stiffer spring to account for the disconnected system.
When riding across an off camber, sloped, side hill - there is potential that the machine will roll toward the downhill side a little, like on flat ground with someone trying to push it over from the side of the roll cage.
Best I can say is that you have to try it. It's not for everyone. Yet others love it. All you need to do is remove/disconnect one end. No need to fully remove from the machine until you confirm that it's what you want.
Removing just the front sway bar will have little to no affect on your sidehill riding. It actually makes it better if you should happen to hit any kind of a bump with your uphill wheel. Your springs are what support the vehicle, the sway bar just moves the connected wheels in tandem. It won't lean any more or less on a sidehill with the sway bar off. Removing just the front bar makes almost no difference in how my General handles, but makes a huge difference in how it rides and performs off-road. The rear bar is the one that handles most of the load.
My front sway bar is hanging out in the shop some where...
Not difficult to take off like the RZR 800, so if you want to put it back on...
I'm way to old to be drifting anything at 64, so don't have to worry about that. But I really do like the much better articulation of the front suspension.
Just me,
Pirate
Not difficult to take off like the RZR 800, so if you want to put it back on...
I'm way to old to be drifting anything at 64, so don't have to worry about that. But I really do like the much better articulation of the front suspension.
Just me,
Pirate
I took mine off yesterday - 1 thing I noticed is that when the machine was up on the ramp, the tire was petty close to rubbing the bottom of the wheel well by the skid plate, (1/2 plate) this is with 28" tires, it may have rubbed if the wheel was turned sharply, going to test that today and I may put it back on if it rubs - I think if I had 30"s on it would have touched, even with the wheels straight.
Has anyone loaded up the front springs a bit to help with this? I don't know a whole lot about spring and shocks and or if this would even help
Has anyone loaded up the front springs a bit to help with this? I don't know a whole lot about spring and shocks and or if this would even help
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I have 30" tires, and trust me when I say, I've had it stuffed many times, and have only had minor rubbing. definitely not enough to worry about. Stock suspension with the pre-load turned up.
I have 30" tires, and trust me when I say, I've had it stuffed many times, and have only had minor rubbing. definitely not enough to worry about. Stock suspension with the pre-load turned up.
Where does it touch ?
How much should I crank up the Springs ?
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