[Rake1]

Went to take my 2023 XP of my trailer today and it wouldn't move just rev up (in turf mode) had to put it in awd to get it off trailer. Thought the turf mode bit the dust, But on further inspection I fount the rear right axle had come out of the carrier about 1/1/2 inches. tried to push it back in but it stops about 1/2 inch from going in all the way. So I assume the clip is stopping it from going in all the way. My question is why would it of fell out to start with? And do I have to pull the whole rear axle assembly wheel, rotor, swing arm etc. to get it to clip back in. Only 400 easy miles on the

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[Toxic-21]

In most cases you can grab it and push it back in, no need to disassemble anything.
If you want to exercise your warranty, take it to your Dealer.
If you want to do it yourself, disassemble and spread your CirClip.

It has happened quite frequently on the Ranger and General lineup.

This started when Polaris went to the New Spider Gear differential in 2019.

 

[Rake1]

Tried pushing the axle back in and it went in almost all the way but I don't think it is actually locked I may have to Take it apart to get it locked in the clip

 

[lueck89]

Tried pushing the axle back in and it went in almost all the way but I don't think it is actually locked I may have to Take it apart to get it locked in the clip

Try pulling on the steel shaft part of the axle, pull towards the tire. If it stays in you're good. If it pops out, obviously it wasn't in. You should be able to replace that circle clip without disassembling anything. Just simply pull the axle out again and switch out the clips...

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[Toxic-21]

Try pulling on the steel shaft part of the axle, pull towards the tire. If it stays in you're good. If it pops out, obviously it wasn't in.

Can you expand on this please.

 

[lueck89]

Can you expand on this please.

What's there to explain?

He said he's mot sure if it's locked in... I simply explain an easy way to make sure it's locked in... also how to change the circle clip...

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[Pirate]

I wonder if it's possible to get a circle clip or spring clip that is step larger in diameter?
I know the ones that come with Turner Cycles Nitro axles are really something to get to pop out of the groove in the trans.
Pirate

 

[Toxic-21]

What's there to explain?

He said he's mot sure if it's locked in... I simply explain an easy way to make sure it's locked in... also how to change the circle clip...

Try pulling on the steel shaft part of the axle, pull towards the tire. If it stays in you're good. If it pops out, obviously it wasn't in.

From reading your comments, I was not sure if you conveyed your thoughts as you meant them.
I have done this many times.
That is why I asked the question.

The only "lateral" moving part in this axle assembly is the DOJ joint itself.
And since the Axle is installed in this situation, "pulling on the steel shaft part of the axle, pull towards the tire", does absolutely nothing in testing if the (DOJ) Axle is locked into place.
You will have to pull on the DOJ CV Joint itself.

 

[lueck89]

From reading your comments, I was not sure if you conveyed your thoughts as you meant them.
I have done this many times.
That is why I asked the question.

The only "lateral" moving part in this axle assembly is the DOJ joint itself.
And since the Axle is installed in this situation, "pulling on the steel shaft part of the axle, pull towards the tire", does absolutely nothing in testing if the (DOJ) Axle is locked into place.
You will have to pull on the DOJ CV Joint itself.

Pretty sure the round shaft of the axle is connected enough to the cv joint that if you pull on it, it'll pull the joint/axle stub out too (thats how ive always removed the axle stub/inner joint ftom the diff). If the axle shaft pulls out of the CV joint/cup then that's a totally different issue....

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[Rake1]

OK guys i pushed in as far as it will go and it looks tight with same distance as the other one almost touching the carrier.But when I pull on it it comes back out.I'm thinking I'm gonna have to pull the axle and replace the clip. By the way when I pull on it it doesn't come out of the Carrier all the way so I can't see or change the clip As far as I can tell.

 

[lueck89]

OK guys i pushed in as far as it will go and it looks tight with same distance as the other one almost touching the carrier.But when I pull on it it comes back out.I'm thinking I'm gonna have to pull the axle and replace the clip. By the way when I pull on it it doesn't come out of the Carrier all the way so I can't see or change the clip As far as I can tell.

Can you bend one or both joints to get it to come out all the way? I'm sure it's not in there by much.... might be able to save yourself a bit of time if bending the joints gets you enough room...

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[Rake1]

I will try but didn't have much luck just pulling on it.so I assume they do come out without a tear down correct.

 

[Toxic-21]

Pretty sure the round shaft of the axle is connected enough to the cv joint that if you pull on it, it'll pull the joint/axle stub out too (thats how ive always removed the axle stub/inner joint ftom the diff). If the axle shaft pulls out of the CV joint/cup then that's a totally different issue....

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The Axle is currently installed, nothing removed.
This can’t happen.

Has this happened to you and have you done it?

 

[Toxic-21]

I will try but didn't have much luck just pulling on it.so I assume they do come out without a tear down correct.

The Axle does not come completely out, without removing the tire/bearing carrier etc.

The closest that this may happen, is if you remove the shock on that side, and raise the axle parallel with the carrier and pull on the DOJ ( inboard CV).

 

[Rake1]

I can do that Just wanted to make sure that the axle will pull out enough to change the clip if I have to

 

[Toxic-21]

I can do that Just wanted to make sure that the axle will pull out enough to change the clip if I have to

I am not sure.
I have never actually done this as a test.
I personally would not change the clip, I bet there is nothing wrong with it.
However I would try and spread it a little.

 

[lueck89]

The Axle is currently installed, nothing removed.
This can’t happen.

Has this happened to you and have you done it?

I haven't had to do this to the general yet, but I'm familiar with how these work. Have had plenty apart on ATVS/trucks...

I find it hard to believe that you can't grab a hold of the axle shaft and give it a tug to see if that axle is seated in the diff. I know there's a bit of play in that axle assembly, and you could get a slide hammer type jerk on it, not much. But enough to check to see if it's locked in... if you can't jerk it, then a pry bar between the cup and diff would let you know if it's in or out. A bit of pressure, and if it doesn't move you're good...

Same with removing only the inboard axle stub from the diff. I would have thought that if you jack up the rear tires so they're off the ground. This puts the rear suspension at max length, obviously. That you'd be able to slide that inner stub out of the diff far enough to at least replace that clip or bend the clip open. If you can't see the clip, bending the inner joint forward or back may help get that last 1/4" of movement... after all, it did slide out far enough to lose drive to the tire while it was assembled, I can't see why you couldn't get to the clip with it assembled...

Maybe I'm wrong with these thoughts, though...

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[Rake1]

I haven't had to do this to the general yet, but I'm familiar with how these work. Have had plenty apart on ATVS/trucks...

I find it hard to believe that you can't grab a hold of the axle shaft and give it a tug to see if that axle is seated in the diff. I know there's a bit of play in that axle assembly, and you could get a slide hammer type jerk on it, not much. But enough to check to see if it's locked in... if you can't jerk it, then a pry bar between the cup and diff would let you know if it's in or out. A bit of pressure, and if it doesn't move you're good...

Same with removing only the inboard axle stub from the diff. I would have thought that if you jack up the rear tires so they're off the ground. This puts the rear suspension at max length, obviously. That you'd be able to slide that inner stub out of the diff far enough to at least replace that clip or bend the clip open. If you can't see the clip, bending the inner joint forward or back may help get that last 1/4" of movement... after all, it did slide out far enough to lose drive to the tire while it was assembled, I can't see why you couldn't get to the clip with it assembled...

Maybe I'm wrong with these thoughts, though...

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After fooling with this your right on the pulling the axle out once I push it into lock, mine comes back out. But as far as pulling the axle out to see the clip you may be wrong on that one. I tried hard to do just that I cannot get it out far enough. so It is coming apart.

 

[Rake1]

2023xp under warranty and have to fix it myself. Called dealership this morning I was told I couldn't get it in for repair until the end of January. So I ordered a clip in case and will pull the axle myself. I Have never seen these clips are they something that goes on without a speciality tool?

 

[ECP]

2023xp under warranty and have to fix it myself. Called dealership this morning I was told I couldn't get it in for repair until the end of January. So I ordered a clip in case and will pull the axle myself. I Have never seen these clips are they something that goes on without a speciality tool?

This also happened to my brand new 2023 XP. I was in turf mode and stopped moving. Discovered the right rear axle popped out. I will try expanding the clip and see if it helps any.