That's my problem with it Steve. They are just getting most of the parks around here to the point that 2 seat SXS can go down them, but the 4 seaters are getting hung up on tight turns and creeks all of the time. It is the best looking ride out of all the Generals, in my opinion, and I would love to be able to take my family all together. I can solve the creek issue with some mild suspension work and slightly bigger tire, but the length would still kill me on the trails. **** they look good though!