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Ok, so I have a trip to Windrock in less than 2 weeks. So today we took it out to break in a new belt and new front wheel bearings. So we were taking it easy.

Then we starting hearing this awful squeaking noise from the rear. Stopped and went back and looked and sure enough, that same shock was busted. Haven't had a chance to get pics, but I will.

So short story is I need/want new shocks.

Torn between what I might be able to get in 10 days vs what I will want long term. My choices:

814 Suspension
Elka Stage 3 or 4
Bandits.

Anyone have any feedback on these. What I will not being doing is sending it back to Shock Therapy so they can charge me $500-700 to "fix" it so it can break again. This is the 3rd time for this particular shock.
 

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Ok, so I have a trip to Windrock in less than 2 weeks. So today we took it out to break in a new belt and new front wheel bearings. So we were taking it easy.

Then we starting hearing this awful squeaking noise from the rear. Stopped and went back and looked and sure enough, that same shock was busted. Haven't had a chance to get pics, but I will.

So short story is I need/want new shocks.

Torn between what I might be able to get in 10 days vs what I will want long term. My choices:

814 Suspension
Elka Stage 3 or 4
Bandits.

Anyone have any feedback on these. What I will not being doing is sending it back to Shock Therapy so they can charge me $500-700 to "fix" it so it can break again. This is the 3rd time for this particular shock.
I'm sorry to hear that, Its crazy how much problem that has been. Good luck with your choices, I've heard good things about both. I would probably lean toward the 814, but that's probably the problem of time your talking about.
 

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A fellow member hauled off and ordered a completer set of ST shocks/springs. He's a very happy camper. The shocks are also larger.

Gonna try to steal 'em in Idaho...

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Are these QS3 Fox shocks? My General is awaiting the third rebuild in 600 miles - on QS3's. I'd like to have a spare set, so I don't miss rides, but I think that all of my shocks are peculiar to the position they are in. The reservoir needs to be at a certain angle to work. It would be nice to just carry one spare shock for the machine, but don't think that would work. Even better would be if the shocks lasted more than 200 miles.
 

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3 years and my qs3's are good still, might be a certain run of them that were bad? I dont know anybody up here having issues with qs3's either sleds or quads or sxs's. I put 4000km hard mountain km's on my sled that had qs3's and never a hiccup either.

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3 years and my qs3's are good still, might be a certain run of them that were bad? I dont know anybody up here having issues with qs3's either sleds or quads or sxs's. I put 4000km hard mountain km's on my sled that had qs3's and never a hiccup either.
Are you running stock?

Looking at the body it simply seems the plastic divider wore through the aluminum body. I think you need a steel body of you are going to run a dual setup on the east coast. There is just too much mud and grit that get between the divider and body and the abrasive friction just wears holes in it.

I found a set of used rears on Ebay which will get me through my trip. But I am looking real hard at the 814's. The big appeal is no dual rate, so no slider to wear out the body. Reading reviews of them now.
 

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Are you running stock?

Looking at the body it simply seems the plastic divider wore through the aluminum body. I think you need a steel body of you are going to run a dual setup on the east coast. There is just too much mud and grit that get between the divider and body and the abrasive friction just wears holes in it.

I found a set of used rears on Ebay which will get me through my trip. But I am looking real hard at the 814's. The big appeal is no dual rate, so no slider to wear out the body. Reading reviews of them now.
Herdfan - So your failure is and has been the slider damaging the actual shock body?? Doesn't that slider move any time the machine is in motion with that dual rate setup? Before you went dual rate did you have any issues? Reason I ask is that I have a set of G4 Foxes I need to respring for my G2 as they're a tad stiff in the rear and I'm back and forth on what to do on springs. Hate that you're having these issues. Blessings!

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Yes. But mine is just the left rear that has given me issues, The other 3 have been fine.
I would look into alignment or obstruction of shock and spring at maximal or minimal compression..
I have not had a bit of trouble with my shock therapies and they are ridden very hard on trails and worked very hard on my property.
Photos might be helpful.
 

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I have not had a bit of trouble with my shock therapies and they are ridden very hard on trails and worked very hard on my property.
Photos might be helpful.
Are your trails wet? I mainly ride HM and some TN and while I wouldn't call it mud, there are always mud puddles we are going through. This muddy water gets up and between the shock and the divider and just rubs,

Here is a pic. I put a micrometer on the thickness. In there area where it is blown out, the metal is about 1.2mm thick, on the opposite side, it is 2.5mm think. So it is getting worn down and then it either leaks or gives out.
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Ran Elka Stage 4 in my RZR 900 and really liked them...I'm hoping the Walker Evans does as well,, you need to call them and give weights of machine passenger etc... friend of mine just ordered a set but it looks like 8 to10 weeks out...
 

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Ok, so I found a pair of old RZR 900S shocks, so my trip will happen. :) Might not ride as good, but with the ST dual-rate springs on the old shocks, it still should ride better than stock.

Future term, I pulled the trigger on a set of 814 3-ways. Looked the Elka's but they migth have the same issues at the Fox's with the divider getting grit under it and rubbing on the shock body. Looks like I am about a month out. Once I get them I will do a review and comparison to the ST's.
 
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